Many people have speculated on the eight kings described in Revelation 17:10-11, and have concluded that the sixth king is the Antichrist – the one who “is.” Then a seventh king comes in, but does not reign long, then the eighth king – who is also one of the first seven – goes to destruction (because he is the Antichrist.)
“They are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.”
The first five kings have fallen, and are presumably out of the picture. The eighth king does not appear to be one of the first five kings coming back. He can’t be the seventh that doesn’t reign for long. The seventh king’s reign must end, or no one would say we have the eighth king. Therefore, the Antichrist must be the sixth king, coming back to power to rule as the eighth king. If we are in the time of these eight kings now, how soon might we see WWIII/Armageddon and other judgments and forms of God’s end times destruction before the new heaven and the new earth?
I think the land of Mystery Babylon is America and the city is New York. There are about a hundred biblical verses supporting this interpretation. Although I did go into this at length in my 2014 book on the Antichrist – in which I detailed why Obama could be revealed as the Man of Sin in 2016 – only the parts about America as Mystery Babylon remain on target.
Strangely, Biden has the best sound bite on this topic:
(The idea that Obama could be revealed as the Antichrist on June 6, 2016 was based on about a dozen clues, and while they seemed impressive enough to merit attention – fortunately, they amounted to nothing.)
The best and most in-depth analysis reviewing the supporting evidence that America is Mystery Babylon was written by R.A. Coombes in America, The Babylon : America’s Destiny Foretold in Biblical Prophecy. Just a few biblical quotes should suffice here:
Revelation 17:18 “And the woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.” [New York is a great city symbolized by a woman and it is the financial capitol of the world, and also rules through the United Nations, headquartered in New York.]
Revelation 8:3 “And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer.” The statue of liberty stands on a pedestal and holds a golden censer.
Revelation 10:8 “…take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.” Lady Liberty’s other hand holds a tablet or book and she stands on an island at the coast in the city harbor – standing upon the sea and upon the earth.
If Mystery Babylon is America, then perhaps the eight kings in Revelation 17:10 are American presidents. If so, is it that unreasonable to suggest that one of our recent presidents may have been the sixth king in the time frame being described? Obama even commented about the idea of a third term under a puppet president that would really just be a mouthpiece for his words. One video I found is encrypted but can be found on FB under “Obama’s 3rd Term”
Some of the more interesting information from my Antichrist book supporting Obama as Antichrist:
As Morgan Freeman approached Obama at a fundraiser, Obama once said:
“This guy was president before I was.”
Obama said this before he was even elected president – referring to Freeman’s role in Deep Impact. But the amazing quote comes from what he said regarding Freeman’s role in Bruce Almighty: “This guy was God before I was.“
Everyone who cares to listen has already seen the videos on Luke 10:18, in which Jesus said: “I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning” or “I perceived Satan as lightning from the heights.” Lightning in Hebrew is pronounced “Bah-Rock.” Some Hebrew conjunctions are reduced down to an “O” sound just like we replaced the fifteenth century “of the clock” down to “o’clock.” Heights in Hebrew is pronounced “Bah-Mah.” Jesus may have left us a clue when (it sounds the same in Hebrew and in Aramaic) He said He perceived Satan as “Bah-Rock” “O” “Bah-Mah.”
But the American liberal media adored Obama, and constantly portrayed him as their savior.
Jamie Foxx doubled down on the insanity:
In addition to a great many Bible prophecies, there is also a 17th century Islamic prophecy which may very well be describing Barack Obama. This is not in the Koran, (which is a thousand years older) but it is still a centuries-old Shiite “Hadith” (tradition.) Shi’ite Mullah Majlisi wrote Bahar al-Anvar (Oceans of Light) – 132 volumes of religious commentary that (along with the Koran it comments on) is the foundation of modern Shiite Islam.
Mullah Majlisi wrote that, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (Mohammed’s cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that just prior to the return of the Twelfth Imam – the Mahdi – the Ultimate end times Savior of Islam – a “tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West.” Leading “the strongest army on earth,” the new western ruler in the West will carry “a clear sign” from the third imam, (whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali.) Obama’s middle name, Hussein, is believed to be that sign. The Hadith also says that “Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.” The name Barack, in both Arabic and Farsi (Persian) means blessing; Barack Hussein means “the blessing of Hussein” in both languages. Even the surname Obama, written in the Persian alphabet as O-Ba-Ma, means “he is with us,” another key point of Majlisi’s tradition.
It is hardly inconceivable that America’s current president is not really the one making decisions – and that someone else is. That someone else could be Obama, ruling from behind the scenes only because presidents are limited to two terms. Trump ruled for a short while [one term] – could he have been the seventh king? Maybe… but maybe not. When Obama was in office, only four previous presidents were “fallen” but alive: Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.
What if Trump was the sixth king who is coming back as the eighth king? He is from New York. We know that the city of Mystery Babylon sits on many waters (New York is coastal) – it rules over many kings/nations (NY hosts the HQ of the United Nations) – it dominates World Trade (Wall Street, New York banking cartels, the infamous World Trade Center towers…) the city has a lot of Jews whom the Bible warns to flee it (NY had 2 million Jews at one time, and still well over a million now…)
Besides being from this city, Trump is extremely wealthy (Ezekiel 28:4-5 warns that the Antichrist will be rich) he rose to high political office quickly (Daniel 7:8 and 8:9-11 warns the Antichrist is a “little horn” with a short political path to suddenly hold great power, not a long political career.) Daniel 11:37 warns that the Antichrist will show no regard for “the desire of women” and although this has often been interpreted to mean he will be homosexual, it could just mean he is disrespectful towards women….
The Trump family bought the most expensive single building ever purchased in the United States, at 666 Fifth Avenue, a street symbolic of money (Mammon), hubris, excess and greed. Another Trump Fifth Avenue property, the famous Trump Tower, is 203 meters tall according to multiple reports. And 203 meters = 666 feet. Donald Trump lives there in gold-plated opulence on the 66th floor! And Trump inherited his grandmother’s real estate empire when she died on June 6, 1966 = 6-6-6
There were five “fallen” but living previous presidents during Trump’s presidency [add Obama to the previous list.] And while I don’t expect it to happen, it is not inconceivable that Trump will be re-elected in 2024. It is a long-shot – but not impossible scenario – that election fraud will be proven for November 2020 and that overturned results will put Trump back in the White House just like Q followers have predicted. As unlikely as those possibilities may seem, Trump could be president again someday soon – and this would make Trump the best match for Revelation’s prophecies about an eighth king who was also one of the previous seven.
It feels like the end times and the mark of the beast are very close. If the jab itself isn’t the mark, it could be what the unvaccinated are being forced to wear. The Pittsburgh Steelers made players who didn’t take it wear yellow armbands.
The U.S. Army is starting to do the same thing. No worries. Except you can’t participate in public or enter lots of places to shop without proof of jabs in New York. Or Paris. Australia. All right, it seems to be inevitable worldwide…. No relation at all to Revelation 13:17 “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”
And despite the potential mark of the beast being implemented, and plague and constant rumors of war, the feeling that we are close to the end times – or even in them right now – could be an illusion. Current problems could pass by and the end times could be for another generation. Although it seems to me like the time is now, and we are the generation that will see these events come to pass… my thoughts on possible timing of such events has been wrong before. The eight kings of Revelation’s 17th chapter could be about another time and place entirely. Or Biden could be a front man for someone else. Or Biden’s presidency could end very soon. Either way, the answer could be revealed in 2021. Nostradamus described WWIII in terms of an Islamic war against the Christian West ending in late 2028 (followed by a pole shift in October) and if WWIII is set to end in 2028 that leaves 7 years of potential tribulation ahead of us.
What do you think?
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Antichrist is the eighth king, and is the pope. Pope Francis is the eighth sovereign of Vatican state, and comes out of seven kings, who are other great kings of Europe (minus Japan).
Trump is the king which will reign for “a short while”, thus he was styled as “God-Emperor”. Maybe he will reign after the fall of the pope, as the God-Emperor should.
Antichrist = the False Prophet
I think Antichrist and False Prophet are clearly two separate individuals.
Antichrist is just a folk name, it does not appear in Revelation, nor in Daniel.
False Prophet, on the other hand, does. I like the interpretation that it was Saint Paul, not without reason we have ‘Pauline Christianity’.
Vatican said exactly that in recently presented picture:
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2021-07/vatican-unveils-official-image-for-x-world-meeting-of-families.html
‘The work, entitled, “This Mystery is Great” (taken from St Paul’s letter to the Ephesians, 5:32), was painted by theologian and artist Father Marko Ivan Rupnik, SJ,.
The image portrays the Wedding at Cana, with the bride and groom in the background on the left, covered by a veil. Jesus and Mary are seen united, at the moment when Mary tells her Son, “They have no more wine.” In the foreground is the steward, with the face of St Paul as portrayed in classical iconography. It is Saint Paul “who removes the veil with his hand, and referring to the wedding, exclaims, “This mystery is great; but I speak in reference to Christ and the Church!”.’
Vatican area is 0.44 km2, and the number 44 is the number of Messiah in Frankist theology.
Polish poet Adam Mickiewicz, from Frankist milieu, one who profusely wrote on Messianism, is known for this words:
‘Born from a foreign mother, his blood of ancient heroes,
And his name will be forty and four.’
Some claim it was John Paul II, as his mother was suspected of having Jewish-Frankist lineage.
But it could be interpreted as well as simply taking over the Vatican, which would be then in 1929 (the year of the creation of Vatican state).
Frankists moved from Poland to other European countries, co-opting Rothschilds, and then Schiffs who took over USA.
Obama cannot be a Messiah since his mother wasn’t a foreigner. The entire debate about his ‘birthright’, which concentrated on his Kenyan father, was a misdirection (from the point of the prophecy above).
Many interesting tidbits of knowledge about Jacob Frank are in Olga Tokarczuk Nobel-monument of him, ‘The Books of Jacob’ which unfortunately will be available in English only in Februar 2022 (will be then after the pole shift already…?). But it is already in French and German, so read it if you can. I must say the English are not the favourite nation of Illuminati.
As for John Paul II, he was actually put in his place by an outside force which threatened bad things to Vatican Giuseppe Siri who was actually elected in 1978 would not step down. It does mean that John Paul II was a part of grater plan, which had to do both with St John and St Paul, as you can get from his names….
So much for isolation of Sistine Chapel during conclave and the alleged disappearance of Jus exclusivae, veto right of Catholic monarchs. Apparently someone else than monarchs is wielding now Jus exclusivae. On the other hand, no one who knows how clannish Italians are in practice, should expect that a predominantly Italian group of cardinals would put over a foreigner over a native cardinal of Genova, that great city of merchants 😉
If you look at its application, ius exclusivae was used exclusively against Italians 😉
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_exclusivae
Just to make the point clear: the fact that ius exclusivae did exist (and probably still exists in some form) gives credibility to the thesis that a pope is the ‘eighth, and one of the seven kings’ of Apocalypse.
The tricky thing is not about Trump, but about a pope, who is counted twice, as indicated by the phrase
“The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction”.
Benedict XVI was both one of the seven and one of the five which had fallen.
Francis is an eighth, who goes to destruction.
There are multiple interpretations…
Five who are fallen: Vatican, Spain, Netherlands, Belgium, Japan.
One who is: UK (Elisabeth II is technically a king, for this reason her husband was styled as “consort”).Also notice that she boarded an arca in “2012”.
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If anything, Obama plays to the archetype of Nimrod the Hunter. Of course, it is quite a comical rendering.
Good informative article David. John the Revelator made a clear and precise statement several times in these apocalyptic writings. “He who hath wisdom” Wisdom is the key to understanding who the Beast is. It is not the Catholic Pope. The pope is not the ruler of end times Babylon, namely the United States of America. There is so much evidence in the Bible that it does not take much wisdom to figure that out. Some that post here do not know, do not read the bible and are unsaved men grasping at their own theories. America is Babylon the Great, the most powerful country ever known by man but is soon to fall. Who destroys this modern day Babylon? The 6th and returning 8th King. What are the defining hallmarks of this last King? First, he must be of Jewish ancestry from the Tribe of Dan. Second, he must be of Assyrian ancestry because God calls him “that Assyrian” in the Old Testament. Third, he comes from of the sea out of no where. The sea is the multitude of people on earth and he is unknown and gains power very quickly. Fourth, he has not the desire of women. This fourth description should take Trump off the list and the other traits point to only one person that came out of no where, whos mother Stanley Ann Dunham was a Jew from the Tribe of Dan. Whos father was from Assyrian ancestry (Obama is brown skinned, Trump is white skinned, that is obvious and Assyrians are of darker skinned ancestry). The fourth description is too obvious as Obama was raised by a transexual and he is married to a man whose actual name is Michael. Obama has slipped and has called him/her many times. There are many more descriptions that point only to Obama, but the general populace is just as ignorant on this topic as they are on the Jab. A very common misconception by those that have no knowledge is that Obama is too stupid, too lazy ect. ect. to be the Antichrist. Satan and Obama has sure fooled them. Besides, when the fallen angel takes over Obama’s body in the near future, he will be the most convincing and articulate human all thru satanic supernatural powers. Those here that claim the pope is the Antichrist do not know the Bible and if they did they would know that is the religious side of the Apocalypse where the False Prophet comes from. The Vatican has no seaports, is not a producer of goods worldwide, it is not a land of many rivers and lakes, it does not have an all powerful military, on and on and on. “It is far easier to fool some one than to convince them they have been fooled”. Samuel Clements is laughing from the grave at all the foolish people these days!
The word antichrist is a synonym for any person that is against Christ. The capitalized version (Antichrist) is a synonym for the latter days man of sin that precedes the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. The man of sin, the man of perdition, the lawless one, the beast, the King of Babylon, the Assyrian are all Biblical. The word Antichrist is not written in the Bible but is an accurate description of all the names given in the Bible of this end times evil ruler. It is just semantics to argue otherwise. Of course there are some here that would complain if they were hung with a new rope. lol
Revelation 17 describes America to perfection as the Whore of Babylon. Her power reaches across the earth and she sits on 7 Mountains which are the 7 Continents on earth. Rome sits on 7 hills, a mountain and a hill are hugely different and obvious except to the deniers. Babylon also sits on many waters across the earth. Her military power is beyond all others until she falls. She carries a Golden Cup in her hand and is represented by the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor. Interestingly as you fly past her, in the distance are bold letters Babylon inscribed on a structure. In the original planning, the Statue of Liberty was designed in the initial stages to be in color, she was to be wearing the Royal Robes of Scarlet and Purple. Due to monetary reasons it remained copper with a weathered patina. Babylon the Great is represented under the emblem of a female. Revelation 17 describes her as wearing Scarlet and Purple and carrying the Golden Cup in her hand. There is no mistaking that America is modern day Babylon except for those deniers that have made up their mind on what they think they know–they don’t.
Babylon America proclaims ” I am no widow and will see no sorrow” ‘Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called, The Lady of Kingdoms”.
Watcher … agreed. He is referenced as the 8th King and like a beast referencing his inhuman destructive nature. Look how Biden is already falling fast. He will be removed in a short time to clear the way for the 8th king to rise to power. It will most likely be done under a false flag event. Blame the opposition and be sure to include those pesty Christians so you can eliminate them. Remember Nero. Also remember the story of Esther. There was a pre-planned set up that caught the Jews in a trap as they could not and would not do what the decree mandated. The same will be for us with the jab and then the mark. I’m preparing and expecting the false flag event to occur if not this fall, then by early next year. There’s going to be escalating “mandatory” announcements about the jab. It will reach a level that there will be a negative reaction from several groups. This could be the stage up to chaos, martial law and regime change.
The thing I am finding that is lacking in the discussion online on “Christian sites” is that when this event occurs it’s “game on” Book of Revelations fulfillment time. Severe persecution for the saints. Are the saints preparing for that? Who is delivering that message? We can visualize WW2 and what happened to the Jews but 100x times worse. My inner sense is that final great apostasy will be triggered by the pressure that man puts on them to submit to him or suffer. The predominant end times prophecy message at this time is that nothng happening now matters as it does not fit the accepted 7 year narrative of images and actors. Couple that with an escapism rapture doctrine where the US saints avoid any of the nasty stuff … it puts them to sleep. Everything just goes on as normal as it can in Babylon, work, buy and sell, marry, go to church, etc. with almost no preparation of the saints being done. Major public evangecal leaders are even promoting the jab.
I found the dates for the US “kings” very different than any of the traditional concepts of who they are and when they ruled. It was Natan the Jewish teen who died and saw Obama as the face of Gog while in heaven being shown the last days of his nation that triggered me to look into the dating and how it fit the overall beginning, middle and end of the age timeframes. It is much different than I could have ever imagined. It started with Reagan who also was marked by a NDE vision from heaven. 1984 was the beginning of the countdown. Obama fits in as number 5 (mid point) and most probable number 8. It seems to me that the 8th King will consolidate with the reordered Euro powers and rule the whole thing.
https://www.walkin.love/who-are-the-8-kings-in-the-book-of-revelation.html
Daniel 7 & 8 little horn are one & the same in Binyamin Netanyahu who when he came to 1st office ;5 were fallen[dead], one is -Shamir d.2014., one to come & did as caretaker king on the fatal wound of the 7th head-Rabin ,then as Pres .Perez. …also like leopard -native born Palestine ,different to ALL before..feet like bear -parents from Lithuania one of the ribs torn out of bear, speaks like lion – arrogantly bellows Hebrew & English- lion languages.
N.B **** These are the seven’ mountains’ on which the Harlot sits; Zion,Moriah, Ophel,Bezetha, Cared, Acre & sacred bloodied Golgotha………..He [antiChrist]]-supplanter] will magnify himself equal to the ‘Commander of the Host’ – Jesus Christ- Who is Matthew 27;37- ‘king of the Jews’. So is there one man of sin who has made himself a modern 11th king[Prime Minister]. & 8th head [ male; of Government 7th head fatally wounded-Rabin]. ….The answer is YES ! Does he fulfill ALL Prophecy ….YES ! …Sadly you do not understand as you have NO Prophetical Insight !…..please read on as HE has given me some….
Daniel 2; The feet & ten toes the divided kingdom under Rome from which the stone -Jesus Christ- is cut is Judah to the South & Israel to the North -both scattered in the Diaspora 70a.d -135a.d. It had ten toe foundation as only 10 of old Israel’s sons took up land in the Promised Land. Joseph died on the journey his family settled with Benjamin’s & Levi took none settling with ALL as Rabbis. They were part Rome & Jewish -St Paul the example…Jesus was not cut from the divided Roman kingdom as it did not exist…. The modern king/ horn / man of sin also magnified himself by changing his surname to make himself WHAT Jesus Is by name definition ; ‘the right hand son ‘-Hebrew.: Binyamin & ‘God’s Gift’ -Heb. Netanyahu .[was Mielekowsky -from out of the sky?-Deuteronomy fallen angel. This new name adds to 666 in old Hebrew Gemtria ……
If I have peaked your interest please read more of what the LORD’s spirit says:-
I write because’ those that mislead many’ will pay a heavy price -so BEWARE.
A little more you SHOULD know; Daniel 7- picture talk explained- in 1947 the Jews, mainly from USSR, approached the new United Nations to annex Palestine for the nation state of Israel. The Lion [United Kingdom] with eagles wings [USA] as one after their WW2 alliance were torn off when the USA sided with the Bear[USSR- with three ribs torn out-Estonia,Lithuania,Latvia]] who wanted to get rid of their troublesome Jews against the Lion- UK’s wishes to talk the [Arabic] Leopards four wings; Lebanon,Jordan Syria &Egypt into this Motion which when put before the U N was passed with one dissenting vote , the Lion;UK who was then made to walk on it’s own two feet as policeman until nationhood 1948 being repeatedly bombed by the Stern gang forerunners of Mid -East Terrorism. So travelling in S.E direction out of the nations[Lithuania-USSR] the BEAST that comes out of the [Mediterranean] Sea was born treading down ALL around it – i.e. the 4 Leopards wings.
1948-1996 Ten kings/horns[P.Ms- male sons] that are 7 heads[of Govt] :- Gurion [x2 office], Sharett, Eshkol, Shamir[x2], Begin, Perez, Rabin [x2 killed in 2nd office by rumoured minor MOSSAD agent who would only operate under instruction by Head- Binyamin Netanyahu new incoming king- 12th P.M -one queen -Golda].
Why would I say my family Judah[now calling itself the lie of Israel -united] is the BEAST country…..Simple ;we murdered God’s Messiah Son sent to Redeem us![Matt27;25] of the murders of the Prophets whose blood was mostly shed in the Great City Harlot Babylon where also is the place where Jesus Last Two will be murdered outside satan’s[BIBI’s] ABYSS[Rev11;7-8] Synagogue [Ezekiel8] under the Dome of the Rock.-JERUSALEM .where also the first Saint Phillip was murdered setting the pattern for the evil false Prophet Popes….the Bible says even the elect [Christians] will be fooled & worship the BEAST & the Harlot….. which many do now!
WE are currently in the DELAY of the Last Week[Rev10;6] I believe……
You might think me anti-semetic for what I say but I tell you this unless they repent & recognise our Messiah Jesus they will not survive what will shortly come to pass- that is my aim to have them realise for a large Remnant !
Your prayers for my family would be appreciated by me & more especially my LORD Yeshu ha Moshiach…..
HE Lives…HE Speaks …the servant listens…in Christ ..old Messianic Jew..Shalom…just a very ordinary old man …..with a mission to save!. I have been cursed threatened & hated for HIS[Jesus] views….Blessings.
P.S Bibi’s 3rd? act of Parliament 1996 was to try to [but failed] ban the teaching of Christianity in Israel & for the last 2 years Bibi has tried to pass into LAW[but failed] marking ALL the children of Israel on the r/hand with his Teva Biotec r/hand micro-chip system as he already India & China where you can not trade without it.
Something else you may or may not consider but I hope you do :-Daniel 9;27 took place in the Great Synagogue Rome January 2016 between the false Prophet Pope Francis & the man of sin Netanyahu & the agreement made that day was broken 3.5yrs later when Bibi opened in June 2019 his false satan’s ABYSS[Rev11;7,8] Synagogue [Ezekiel8] under the Dome of theRock [where I believe will be placed the Abomination weapon he brought back from the USA as special Ambassador early1980’s] consecrated with Pure Red Heifer sacrifice Mt of Olives September 2019-I’m sure you missed it!….also….. Concealed until the Time of the END -NOW[Dan12;9-ALL other old values false! i.e 42mnths, 1260day, 3.5yrs Totals….’.Time [‘the time of trial’-Jesus & HIS 2 Prophets Ministry- last half of the Final Week =3.5yrs] Times [x3.5yrs] & a half a Time[+1.75yrs] ‘=14years TOTAL. Dn7;25- ‘they [Israel] will be given into his [antiChrist’s] hand’ – BIBI’s reign WAS 1996 ..WAS NOT 1999 [subdues 3 kings per Dan 11].. WAS AGAIN 2009 until April 2019 election fail -powerless caretaker king until May2020 Gantz coalition until election fail March 2021 & removal June = 14years TOTAL -Prophecy fulfilled- now watch for Daniel 7;26 ‘court will called to judgement’ so he will never be able to return. to the modern throne….Baruch Hashem……called Israel ….nothing is hidden except the Time of the Return …Shalom.
.Only one nation has Dominion – my family Judah who control the World’s Money &Trade….Shalom….old Messianic Jew..